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My name is Roland Nosek.

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I'm 32 years old.

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My family is Austrian,
but I live in Germany.

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I joined the SS at the very beginning of 1940.

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I am a spy for the SD,
the Nazi intelligence service.

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I speak fluent French and English
without an accent.

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I've been to Paris before the war.

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That's why I was sent there.

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They call me the most Parisian of Germans.

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This is my story.

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End of summer 1945,
the Second World War is over.

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In a French interrogation centre
in the Black Forest, the services of the

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counter-espionage services debrief a
former SS spy and ask him to write

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a report on his four years
of infiltration of Paris.

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The SS is Roland Nosek.

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We know that Nosek joined the SD in 1938.

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We are certain that he is a national socialist.

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He's a Hitler supporter,
that's for sure.

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He's not a fanatic.

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He's quite a pragmatic person
and he's sincerely Francophile.

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It's thanks to his Francophilia that
his superiors send him underground.

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to the French capital in the wake
of German troops.

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I arrived in Paris in June 1940,
on the 17th to be exact.

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Three days before, on 14 June,
our Wehrmacht entered Paris.

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10 May 1940.

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After eight months of a phoney war,
the Germans launch an offensive.

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and crushed the French and British troops,

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driving them back to the Dunkirk pocket,
back to the North Sea.

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Five days later, the Germans
charge towards the capital.

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It's the debacle, the defeat, the exodus.

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On the evening of 13 June, the
Germans are at the gates of Paris.

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The American ambassador William Bullitt
will negotiate on behalf of France.

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the arrival of the occupying forces.

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Paul Reynaud, who is President of the Council,
calls Bullitt and tells him that he

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is authorised to warn the Germans
that Paris has been declared an open city

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and to try to ensure as little
destruction as possible.

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So Bullitt is driving around Paris with
his car and his American banner.

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totally empty.

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He asks, for reasons of safety
of the entry into Paris, that the Germans

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to wait until the 14th.

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The occupant enters.

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He is coming from the north.

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It's a kind of fog in Paris,
chemical fog, we don't know

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why.

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And the occupier, in half a day,
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Four o'clock in the morning.

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The first German soldier crosses
the Place Voltaire on a motorbike.

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A group of soldiers storms the East
and North railway stations.

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At eight o'clock another group moves
into the Hotel de Crillon.

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The Germans move into the Crillon
which is the former seat of the delegation.

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American delegation for
the Versailles treaty negotiations.

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They're playing with symbols
because the Crillon is closed.

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The police commissioner from the eighth
floor arrives and tries to open the door.

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There are chains, he can't get in.

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We tell him: "Either you open in 20 minutes or you don't".

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At 8:30 a.m., motorbikes go up the Champs-ÃlysÃ©es.

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At 9 o'clock, at the Invalides, people
demand the return of the banners.

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of 14-18 and the first swastika is raised.

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The staff is in the centre.

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On the left bank is the Luftwaffe headquarters.

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So, in the Senate.

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On the right bank, we have the staff
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who stay at the RaphaÃ«l
and work at the Majestic.

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The troupe is in the suburbs and
what's fascinating is that at noon,

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everyone is in their place.

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The Nazis are installed.

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The clocks go back to German time.

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There's nobody in the streets.

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No more cars.

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Silence everywhere.

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Paris is almost empty.

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Nearly a million inhabitants have fled,
barely 800,000 Parisians are still here.

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Only the poorest remain, who watch
the troops pass by with curiosity.

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Those who remain are the concierge
of a building, the herringwoman of Les Halles.

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Everyone has fled.

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On 17 June, Himmler sends a commando
of 20 SS dressed as military policemen.

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Roland Nosek is one of them.

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There is a very small core of the SS
which is called the Sipo SD.

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The Gestapo is often used for everything.

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The Gestapo is just a branch of the Sipo SD,
the intelligence service.

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It's not a police organization,
it's an organization that is responsible in

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to monitor political opponents
of the National Socialist regime.

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and, more generally, to provide
political intelligence,

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that is, to try to take the pulse
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political developments in the country.

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Until June 42, this commando of the Sipo SD,
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in principle are simply intelligence
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Reich, i.e. the Jews,
the Communists, but also the churches.

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All those who are the designated enemies
of the Nazi regime.

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We had to work unofficially in the
beginning to occupy the field

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against the Wehrmacht.

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The SS were all housed at the Hotel
du Louvre and then at the Hotel Scribe.

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My team and I stayed at the Hotel
Boccador near the Champs-ÃlysÃ©es.

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It's in the Parisian palaces that
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in Paris.

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The military high command moves to
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today the Peninsula.

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The Majestic Hotel will be the headquarters
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of the German military command in France.

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There are two staffs here.

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There is a military staff that deals with
security issues in the broadest sense,

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and an administrative staff which is
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the French administration and the economic
exploitation of the country.

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The Abwehr, the military secret service,
invests the Lutetia.

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The Nazis requisition the hotels
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flats on boulevard Lannes
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If the swastika is everywhere,
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has its own codes.

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We could look at the Occupation and the
Collaboration from the point of view of colour.

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The Gestapo is in black, the Order in black;
the militia will be in black;

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the Brown Shirts are black shirts.

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You see someone dressed in black,
you know very well what department he belongs.

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At the beginning, the Gestapo is in the minority.

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The Wehrmacht is in charge and in command.

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They are in verdigris,
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the green of the army.

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Around October 1940, we moved
to 11 boulevard Flandrin.

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My mission was to penetrate
all French circles and recruit

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agents who would provide us with
regular information concerning the

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daily life and political circles
in Paris.

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In just a few days, Paris is put to the
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Germans.

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How is it that tens
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so easily?

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It was all planned a long time ago.

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But the important thing is that it was
planned at least three years ago.

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The war was prepared from 1935 onwards
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The big question in June 1940 is:
Who can come to France?

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Who is going to settle there?

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The plans for the Paris land registry were
on sale freely and anyone could

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buy the plans.

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I don't think the secret
service would have missed it.

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What's very interesting is that
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of course not by chance.

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The occupant has a taste for luxury.

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He likes Haussmann buildings,
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but especially a fire escape.

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The more important the person:
two emergency exits.

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For Nazi Germany, occupying Paris
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of France, the hereditary enemy.

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It's a shock for the whole world.

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It's a real worldwide emotion.

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The world press sees the end of the City of Light.

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A Chilean newspaper says:
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civilization by taking Paris,
but the City of Light will be reborn one day."

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You have to see what a shock it was
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the French.

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It was a huge trauma for
the French and it still is,

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I think.

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But for the world.

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France was almost wiped
off the map politically.

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There is a state of shock at
seeing Germans in the street,

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Nazi flags and signs.

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The country no longer exists.

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You have to imagine what it's like,
it's unheard of as a psychological shock.

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It's revenge.

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And revenge is a feeling that Hitler
knows well.

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He too has long dreamed of coming to Paris.

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All of a sudden, someone arranges
a whirlwind visit for him from Belgium.

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A visit whose date has often been debated.

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On 28 June, on the anniversary of the
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Now everything fits.

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We know it was on the 23rd.

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On a Sunday morning, a beautiful summer
day, Hitler arrives at Le Bourget.

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He is in a private plane with his close guard.

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Paris - and it was clear to Hitler -,
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as a symbol of the rich past of the West.

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And Paris represented, from his point of view,
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Leningrad or any other city in the East.

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He is no longer held back by joy.

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It's a symbol and the consecration
of victory.

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He's in his open car,
that famous armoured Mercedes-Benz,

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and he's not going unnoticed.

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He asks for a tour of the most
grand monuments, asks to see the Opera House.

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There's this famous news photo
where we see the swallows - we used to call them

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the policemen with their big
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the military salute.

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He goes of course to the Invalides to pay his respects
for a moment in front of Napoleon's tomb.

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He goes to the Pantheon and walks
down Boulevard Saint-Michel.

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He gets caught again at the bottom.

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At a quarter past eight, he has finished his
visit and leaves.

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The photo of Hitler in front of the Eiffel Tower
will go around the world.

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This news will spread like wildfire.

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Eva Braun had a picture of her Hitler
with the tower on her bedside table.

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Eiffel Tower at the back.

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Hitler's whirlwind visit was not primarily
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Hitler was very interested in the history
of the Parisian heritage that he knew.

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quite well.

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There was a serious ulterior motive behind this.

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In fact, after the war he wanted
to rebuild Berlin into a city again.

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more prestigious and more pompous
than Paris was at that time.

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Hitler spent the happiest day
of his life as a tourist in Paris.

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He never came back.

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In the summer of 1940, the Parisians
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more or less resigned.

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Daily life is slowly returning
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except that everywhere we go,
we see soldiers in uniform.

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It was a conscript army that
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German society in all its diversity
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The type of soldier still present in
1943 and 1944 is quite different from the one

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who arrives in 1940.

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By 1943-1944, they're not at all
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to look at from 40.

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They're quite old, sometimes wounded,
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they can't be used at the front any more.

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The Russian front was extremely difficult
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It was rather nice to have a
permission to Paris.

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There was even this formula:
"For everyone, at least once in Paris".

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They were arriving in an incredibly
interesting city that they would never have seen before.

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from a German point of view,

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in a city that was not at war.

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In my department, I recruited Germans
who lived in France,

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Luxembourgers, one or two Frenchmen.

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The typists or translators were from Germany.

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No one wore a uniform and all
spoke French without an accent.

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In the beginning, I didn't have
any specific guidelines.

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I took the opportunity to start finding
my first personal contacts.

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For Roland Nosek, Paris becomes
the playground for civilian intelligence.

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The status of the city wanted by Hitler,
as opposed to that of a garrison town,

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makes it easier to infiltrate.

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Everything is done on the German side
to join forces with the Parisians.

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The instructions given to the army were
to behave properly.

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Paris is going to be the City of Light,
the city of pleasure.

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It's going to be a showcase.

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A tourist showcase,
but not a centre of power.

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For Germans, wherever they are
in the war, think of Paris,

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is the promise of a week of military tourism.

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It's the place to be.

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It's the symbol of an art of living and
of the gentle French way of life.

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We have this German expression:
"GlÃ¼cklich wie Gott in Frankreich",

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happy as God in France.

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And a place of pleasure, of course.

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That's what we're thinking about.

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The Parisian brothel.

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A staple of the German collective imagination.

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With the Occupation, Paris became the
rst destination for sex tourism

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in history, where vice takes precedence
over virtue.

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There were also cities in Germany
for sexual escapades.

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Berlin in the 20s,
it can be compared to Paris.

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But the Berlin of the 30s,
especially from 1933 on,

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it's not like that anymore.

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Although there are still some opportunities
for original sexual adventures,

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nothing to compare with what
we found in Paris.

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Like here, rue Blondel, in the second
arrondissement.

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Aux Belles Poules.

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A brothel, symbol of the fantasy of war.

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During the war, German officers
had a whole panel of young women

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who were made available to them.

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They were sitting on red banquettes
all around the room.

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It's in this place, in this living room,

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that they were choosing
the girls they liked best.

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Of the 180 brothels in Paris in 1940,
40 were requisitioned for the Wehrmacht.

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Five or six exclusively for officers,
SS cadres, and French collaborators.

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It was a very social place,
we didn't just do sexual services.

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We come here for drinks and dinner.

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In the end, the girls' performances
are just incidental to the evening.

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Of course, those who frequented
the brothels back home in Germany,

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party cadres or senior officers
had never seen that.

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The SS goes to Chabanais instead,
GÃ¶ring is at Chabanais,

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there is the Sphinx...

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There are a lot of brothels.

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They're big meeting places
for Franco-German and French Gestapo.

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The Belles Poules' speciality
was tableaux vivants.

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The women put themselves on stage like
in famous paintings.

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With the mirrors,
it allowed the customers to see them

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from every angle, so they could
go upstairs and do the services.

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much more sexual.

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Anybody going into a house
close has to fill out a card with the name,

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his name, the name of the prostitute,
the date of the report and is given

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a condom called ein Pariser,
a Parisian.

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There was nothing erotic about it any more.

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There was nothing left but pure bureaucracy.

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Bureaucracy.

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The most effective German weapon for administering
France and bringing it under control.

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not with the complicity of a part
of the French and its elites.

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After the armistice was signed
on 22 June 1940, on 10 July,

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the Vichy regime, headed by Marshal
PÃ©tain and Pierre Laval,

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opted for collaboration.

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The Germans install loudspeakers
in every square in Paris.

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People are not surprised that they have asked for an armistice,

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but very shocked that they didn't announce
that they were going to Africa

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or England as the Dutch and British

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governments said.

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France is the only defeated country to sign the armistice.

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The other countries have signed capitulations.

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For the Nazis, the choice of PÃ©tain is a godsend.

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PÃ©tain is the winner of Verdun.

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Are you more French than he is?

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That's the best formula.

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That's Vichy for Hitler,
that allows him to occupy France more cheaply.

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That's what Hitler explained
to Mussolini on 18 June 1940.

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He demands Nice, Savoy,
an occupation and Hitler says :

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"No, not at all.

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You haven't understood a thing.

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What I need is Marshal PÃ©tain.

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I want a real regime accepted by the French,
admired by the French so that I

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can govern without problems".

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On the German side, collaboration,
is to make war,

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to better exploit a country and not to
have to maintain order since

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it's the French who do it.

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We need a government on the spot that
takes care of the tasks that are negative to the eyes

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of the population.

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They bear the responsibility
and not us.

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We're the ones who impose them,
they're the ones who do it, and the people

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turn to their government.

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For some French business and political
circles, this collaboration

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is a gamble for the future.

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Pierre Laval made a diagnosis:
Europe is definitively Nazi and

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you have to get along with the Nazis,
then perhaps soften all

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that we can't stand in Nazism.

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Civilize them a bit.

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If we cooperate, we are no longer defeated.

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If we cooperate, we may be able to obtain
a favourable peace treaty in the future,

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once all of Europe is Nazi.

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It aspires to one thing only,
to become the best province of a

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Nazi Europe.

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Meanwhile, Roland Nosek,
the SS spy, is advancing his pawns and recruiting.

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My network has grown thanks to the Frenchmen
who have been working for us since

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the first day.

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One of my informants introduced me
to a few people, including some

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French air force officers.

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In particular to an aviator,
Albert Gaveau.

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He gives me information about a resistance group.

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The headquarters is at the MusÃ©e de l'Homme
and a certain Weil-Curiel was my first contact.

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track.

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This whole thing started on 11
November 1940, the first 11 November

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of the Occupation.

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All patriotic demonstrations are forbidden.

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Yet 5,000 people are coming to demonstrate.

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Most of them are students,
universities and teachers.

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The rallying point, the Arc de Triomphe.

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At dawn, two young lawyers,
LÃ©on-Maurice Nordmann and AndrÃ© Weil-Curiel,

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laid a wreath at the foot of the statue
of Clemenceau and a large map,

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as if General de Gaulle had laid it,
saying: "General de Gaulle,

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to the father of victory".

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In homage to Clemenceau,
so a reference to victory.

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It begins as a beautiful demonstration
of solidarity and refusal,

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in any case, to submit to the order
of the occupier.

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It still ends in violence.

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There are stops,
arrests and injuries.

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It turns out that AndrÃ© Weil-Curiel,
one of the leaders of the demonstration,

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is friends with intellectuals who
work at the MusÃ©e de l'Homme.

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Heading for the ethnographic
museum at the Trocadero.

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It was here, among other places, that in 1940
in Paris, women and men decided

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to do something and entered the resistance.

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This was the birthplace of an organization
which after the war would be called the network

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of the MusÃ©e de l'Homme.

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We're in one of the exhibition galleries
at the museum.

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This is a museum that was inaugurated in 1938,
a museum at the cutting edge of modernity,

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and which quite clearly affirms a certain
number of values from the outset that go,

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for example, completely contrary to
National Socialist science and

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of the idea of a hierarchy of races,
immutable, and so on.

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This is a much more progressive view.

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At the end of the 30s, ethnologists,
anthropologists and linguists

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work together at the museum.

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What they have in common is a very
early commitment to anti-fascism and to

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the left of the Popular Front.

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The beginnings of the Resistance,
you shouldn't imagine

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extremely spectacular actions.

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We're not in an armed resistance
and we're not derailing trains,

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that's not it at all.

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The first question the
pioneers of the Resistance ask themselves is :

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What can we do?

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What can we do?

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The peculiarity of the organization that
is being created at the MusÃ©e de l'Homme,

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is the major presence of women.

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Germaine Tillion, who belongs to another
group, but who comes to prepare

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her thesis at the museum.

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AgnÃ¨s Humbert working in another museum.

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Yvonne Oddon, central pivot,
who reigns over the library.

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Yvonne Oddon is the librarian of the
MusÃ©e de l'Homme.

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She works here.

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Very soon people who had been mobilized
will return to the Museum of Man.

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In particular, two people who need
to be talked about immediately,

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Boris VildÃ© who is a linguist,
and another very important character

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who is Anatole Levitsky.

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These three, this trio, got together again
in the summer of 1940 and would meet often

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in the library.

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The library is going to become a sort of
centre of these emerging activities

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of the Resistance.

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Yvonne Oddon, she's the one who receives people,
who refers and who collects a certain amount of information.

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information that will be centralized here.

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It's around this core that things are created.

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Obviously, the library plays a very important role.

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At the beginning, it's little things,
inscriptions, butterflies.

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Then, leaflets that already require
more thought and more resources.

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Of course, at the end of the chain,
the first underground sheets,

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that is to say, to have a voice heard
that is not the voice of propaganda

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or Vichy propaganda.

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From autumn 1940 onwards, a sort of...

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Instead of the term network,
I prefer the term VildÃ© sector.

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That is, several groups that are
related to each other

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and who have in common that they work
with Boris VildÃ© and with the people of the

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MusÃ©e de l'Homme.

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The first steps of this group in the nascent
Resistance are necessarily

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awkward.

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It's Boris VildÃ©, with the ardour of his amateur
commitment, who's about to make a mistake.

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a fatal mistake.

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He becomes infatuated with Albert Gaveau,
the aviator who works for Nosek.

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Boris VildÃ© finds him very resourceful
and makes him one of his liaison officers,

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which is obviously dramatic because
a liaison officer, by definition,

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is someone who makes contact with
the different groups.

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Boris VildÃ© has absolute confidence in himself,
he's the one in charge.

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In reality, he is a double agent working for the SD.

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He's going to be behind the successive
blows of the net that will decimate the

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groups around the MusÃ©e de l'Homme and
in the heart of the MusÃ©e de l'Homme.

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Gaveau gave us the main indications
and played a big role.

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in the dismantling of this group.

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But, when I realized that this
affair was not within the competence

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the Gestapo, who dealt with it successfully.

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this case in collaboration with the GFP,
the military secret police.

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Gaveau continued to work regularly
with the Gestapo.

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The arrests took place in the spring of 1941.

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January 42, trial before the German
military court in Paris.

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Trial and conviction.

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Extremely heavy sentence,
death sentence for men

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and for women, women whose punishments
are going to be commuted into punishments

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deportation.

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Yvonne Oddon, for example,
Germaine Tillion deported to RavensbrÃ¼ck

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and AgnÃ¨s Humbert is going to be deported.

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The men are going to be shot on Mont ValÃ©rien,
which you can see from the terrace.

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of the MusÃ©e de l'Homme.

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Located in Suresnes, six kilometres from Paris,
le mont ValÃ©rien is a military fort.

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This is where the prisoners sentenced to death
from their Parisian prisons were held,

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for the executions.

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It's about concentrating that,
both for these executions to be

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massive and sufficiently dissuasive,
and at the same time so as not to

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not spread them all over the territory.

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They have to be monitored places,
that can be monitored all the time

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so that they don't become places
of martyrs.

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The seven members of the MusÃ©e
de l'Homme group are part of the more than 1

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000 men who were shot at Mont ValÃ©rien
during the Nazi occupation between

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1941 and 1944.

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If Nosek's service pulls off big coups,
it's because he's managed to infiltrate

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Parisian political and artistic elites.

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This is the heart of worldly collaboration
embodied by the unavoidable figure,

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the queen of Paris, JosÃ©e Laval,
daughter of Pierre Laval, number two

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of the regime.

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She is her father's showcase,
her father's smile and elegance

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that her father unfortunately doesn't have.

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She creates a political image.

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JosÃ©e Laval is crazy about her father.

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She adores her father, he's her hero.

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His daughter was a pawn who served him.

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She was getting into circles where he
didn't want to go and couldn't go.

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She was there to carry his image,
his presence, and then reap a reward.

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information.

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While Parisians are short of everything,
JosÃ©e Laval and her friends are occupying their

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time between the racecourse and choosing
the cocktail dress for the evening.

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All day long, it's receptions, cocktails,
elegance and parties.

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As a neighbour, JosÃ©e Laval frequents the
place that symbolizes this collaboration.

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chic and carefree.

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This is the German embassy at 78 rue de Lille.

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The German embassy is the most important
social centre during the Occupation.

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The credits are almost unlimited
and the buffets are splendid.

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This is what we now call the after party,
i.e. the second half of the evening.

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I think it was a place to see and be seen.

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I know very few people who have
refused to go to the big parties

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at the German embassy.

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Otto Abetz, the ambassador,
thanks to his French friendships in the 1930s,

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becomes the organizer of this Franco-German
collaboration that looks like a

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reunion.

465
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,640
Otto Abetz has a solid reputation
as a Francophile.

466
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,260
He is married to a Frenchwoman,
he loves culture and everything that goes with it.

467
00:30:02,810 --> 00:30:05,860
And then, a certain sincerity that we
attribute to him as far as

468
00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:08,000
Franco-German understanding
is concerned.

469
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160
The French are going to bet a lot on
the character.

470
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:12,700
These are real friendships.

471
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,720
That's the paradox and that's what bothers us most.

472
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:20,980
It wasn't just opportunism.

473
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,820
Something was created between these
people because they're going to meet again afterwards

474
00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:26,780
the war.

475
00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:28,260
They're among themselves.

476
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,800
It was their pre-war friends
because we really campaigned for it

477
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,680
a Franco-German rapprochement,
which was immediately infiltrated by

478
00:30:35,780 --> 00:30:37,560
the Nazis as soon as the Nazis came to power.

479
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,660
It's a great instrument of cultural
penetration of a country that we wanted,

480
00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:44,900
perhaps not to conquer,
but in any case to subjugate.

481
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:49,740
Worldly collaboration,
it was also to get to know these circles well,

482
00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:53,660
to try to influence them and
give a good image of Germany.

483
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:55,580
There is also an image policy.

484
00:30:56,100 --> 00:31:00,840
Many German agents want
to make sure that this image of the German

485
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,200
and the German world of '40 could
perdurate in '41, even in '42,

486
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,160
even in 43.

487
00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:13,160
I met Ambassador Otto Abetz
immediately after my arrival in Paris.

488
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,120
in June 40.

489
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,400
I got the impression that he was to be
regarded as an idealist who wanted to

490
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,220
Franco-German cooperation.

491
00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:24,960
His biggest flaw was his friends,
a real clique of sell-outs

492
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,920
of the French people.

493
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,160
His friends also frequent JosÃ©e Laval's cocktails
.

494
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,080
For me, she represents the
extraordinary and sick figure of power.

495
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,400
I think she didn't realize.

496
00:31:38,660 --> 00:31:43,240
At the same time, there's a frivolity
that goes with very well-off people.

497
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,980
That's what power brings.

498
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,320
Power is sick and no longer legitimate.

499
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,600
I think it's part of the illusion
that there's a certain legitimacy.

500
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,240
normality of life that goes on.

501
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,300
For them, the Germans are a kind
of lifeline and protection.

502
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,340
They say to themselves: "Better the Germans
than the communists".

503
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:11,000
This off-the-ground society, living in Paris
as if nothing or almost nothing had happened,

504
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,040
goes out a lot to the theatre and to concerts,
for the paradox of occupied Paris is

505
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,480
to have known an exceptional cultural production.

506
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,780
One reason for this: the instrumentalization
of art and culture.

507
00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:31,220
It was important for the German occupiers
not to appear as a troupe

508
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:35,580
of uncultivated barbarians who had come
from the East and destroyed a great

509
00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:36,540
civilization.

510
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:44,240
On the contrary, they wanted to import
German culture and show the

511
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,200
what Germany had to offer.

512
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,620
In the summer of 1941, Mozart Week was organized.

513
00:32:55,180 --> 00:32:56,200
There are free concerts.

514
00:32:57,260 --> 00:33:00,700
It's hard to believe,
but in France they didn't play Mozart,

515
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:02,880
we didn't give Mozart,
we didn't listen to Mozart.

516
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,520
Music would be like a third
language that would be neither French nor English.

517
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,480
or German.

518
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,280
You make a considerable artistic moment
which can be very beautiful,

519
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,100
but at the same time, among the audience,
you have the German officers.

520
00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:28,920
You get people used, at least the elites,
to this German presence that becomes

521
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,380
very acceptable, because in the end they
give you pleasure.

522
00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:37,060
It was at the theatre that JosÃ©e Laval
met her great friend during the war,

523
00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:38,100
Arletty.

524
00:33:38,580 --> 00:33:42,260
At the time, she was one of the most famous
actresses in France and the symbol of her country.

525
00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:43,940
of an ambiguous social collaboration.

526
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:48,360
If she did not make films for the Nazis,
her passionate love affair with

527
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Hans JÃ¼rgen Soehring will be much talked about.

528
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,380
Soehring is in Paris during the Occupation,
but we don't really know what he's doing.

529
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,980
He's around Laval's daughter,
we don't really know, he's circling.

530
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:03,280
And then he meets Arletty,
which keeps him going.

531
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,400
But what does he do all day?

532
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,360
He's not just courting Arletty!

533
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:13,140
As if the German government had sent
some warmongers to seduce a certain Arletty.

534
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:14,100
number of these ladies.

535
00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:18,980
He's trying to find representatives
of good society, he's doing something else.

536
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Does he organize looting?

537
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,500
If you know a certain number
of members of the elite, you know very well

538
00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:30,300
where the treasures are and you
are useful to the great chief,

539
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:31,820
that is, Field Marshal Goering.

540
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:36,720
For his part, Nosek, the Nazi spy,
is delighted to be with all these people

541
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,680
of the show.

542
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,120
It was through Leandri, a Corsican who was a bit of a crook,
that I got to know a few film stars.

543
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,120
and French theatre.

544
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,300
He was a close friend of Tino Rossi, whom
I saw regularly, but who

545
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,260
never asked me anything.

546
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,280
Leandri did ask me to do Danielle
Darrieux a favour.

547
00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,000
Nosek is intoxicated by this Parisian life
which gives him access to celebrities,

548
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,340
actresses, writers and film people he
would never have had access to

549
00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:06,460
would normally have met.

550
00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:11,800
He's going to take on the role of the good German,
i.e. the nice, open guy

551
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,500
you can go to if you're in trouble
and he'll fix you up.

552
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,780
And Nosek will arrange a lot of hits.

553
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,020
Danielle Darrieux came to boulevard
Flandrin to beg me instantly.

554
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:25,240
to release her fiancÃ©,
a diplomat from Saint-Domingue,

555
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,360
Mr Rubirosa.

556
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:28,140
I couldn't do anything for her.

557
00:35:28,580 --> 00:35:32,160
So she went to Berlin with
other French artists to get

558
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,460
her release.

559
00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:36,540
The train of shame on 19 March 1942.

560
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:42,480
We see artists like Danielle Darrieux
taking the train to Berlin,

561
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:44,380
Suzy Delair, etc.

562
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:52,160
She doesn't consider herself a collaborator
and was very affected by this film.

563
00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:55,420
This film showed what was true.

564
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:57,820
Somehow there was this
worldly collaboration.

565
00:35:58,260 --> 00:36:01,280
In a way, Danielle Darrieux
was part of this social collaboration.

566
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,100
What the film doesn't show,
is that Danielle Darrieux,

567
00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:06,478
if she goes to Germany,
it's not necessarily

568
00:36:06,478 --> 00:36:08,580
on the same wavelength
as other artists.

569
00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:13,200
It's part of a deal where she wants to
try to save her fiancÃ©.

570
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:19,420
And indeed, thanks to this trip,
her fiancÃ©, to Germany,

571
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,120
is freed.

572
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,960
Everyone has their motivations.

573
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,220
Leandri also asked me to look after
Maurice Chevalier.

574
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,900
At the time, he was having great trouble
with his mistress, Nita Raya.

575
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,600
This girl was a dancer at the Casino
de Paris and she was Jewish.

576
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Chevalier asked me to protect her
and I did it without asking anything in return.

577
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,840
back.

578
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,140
Maurice Chevalier went into hiding
at the Liberation.

579
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,040
This is an illustration of French ambiguity
and ambivalence.

580
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,300
He recorded the broadcasts on Radio Paris,
the Nazi propaganda radio.

581
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,200
But on the other hand, he goes to Germany
to sing in a prison camp.

582
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,480
and manages to free some of them.

583
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,380
In 44, a tribunal in Algiers sentenced
him to death in absentia.

584
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,720
for collaboration.

585
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,500
He will eventually be cleared.

586
00:37:12,220 --> 00:37:16,520
Nosek's friends, including the famous Leandri,
also frequent the Montmartre hoodlums.

587
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,080
We came to have fun in the cabarets
which never stopped opening.

588
00:37:20,740 --> 00:37:21,700
The customers have changed.

589
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,260
You can find everything here that
you can't find in Germany anymore.

590
00:37:24,580 --> 00:37:27,080
Drugs, alcohol, prostitutes.

591
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,480
Montmartre and Place Pigalle are
a compendium of clichÃ©s of Paris.

592
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,440
in Germany.

593
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,800
If Paris is the city of love and desire,
then Montmartre truly is.

594
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,860
the heart of it, and you know
that very quickly.

595
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:53,700
Montmartre is also a place where
drug dealers and informers meet,

596
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:55,480
SS officers and spies.

597
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,540
It's especially the reign of the underworld and
Corsican mobsters.

598
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,000
The Montmartre underworld is more
like the lower-class black market.

599
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,120
The occupant theoretically has no
right to do business directly.

600
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,960
with the occupied country, so there are a lot of
intermediaries who show up.

601
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,800
It's a world where what was forbidden
has become allowed.

602
00:38:19,780 --> 00:38:22,360
Everyone has a nickname and is called
by first names.

603
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,920
I think it's a time when everything
the world has gone a bit crazy.

604
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,220
Everyone is meeting at Alexis's place
on rue Notre-Dame-de-Lorette,

605
00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:31,220
a Corsican.

606
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:36,560
Alexis Pierre (Lovisi) was the owner
of a small, well-known restaurant in

607
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,020
Montmartre even before the war.

608
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:40,800
I met him towards the end of 1940.

609
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,900
I liked his little restaurant.

610
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:46,600
We ate well there and met a lot
of people, artists of all kinds.

611
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,360
categories, men of the middle,
politicians.

612
00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:52,000
It's an interesting place for him.

613
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,060
At Alexis's, you find all the people
who count in Paris, former ministers

614
00:38:57,340 --> 00:38:59,400
and former members of parliament.

615
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,880
It's at Alexis' that he's going to
meet Jacques Doriot, the head of the PPF.

616
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,060
I met Jacques Doriot in the autumn of 1940.

617
00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:13,740
I tried to use his party,
the PPF, to get information.

618
00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:14,700
information.

619
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,900
I think he's the only party leader
collaborationist with anything

620
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:21,920
solid behind him and I subsidized
right away.

621
00:39:25,060 --> 00:39:26,100
Doriot is a politician.

622
00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:30,560
He was number two in the Communist Party
and later founded his own party

623
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,960
on a fascist line, the PPF.

624
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:38,220
He turns completely to the extreme right
and becomes, I would say, pro-Nazi.

625
00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:42,860
What Doriot and the Parti populaire
franÃ§ais want is civil war.

626
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,500
Settling scores with the Communist Party.

627
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,060
Jacques Doriot will always demand
a place in the government.

628
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:54,960
He will also quite often profess
his loyalty to the Marshal for

629
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,000
the better to attack the government,
especially Pierre Laval, to demand

630
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,660
replacement and aspire to a
place at the head of a French government.

631
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:07,320
Doriot has supporters, thousands
of supporters and tens of thousands

632
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,280
supporters.

633
00:40:08,420 --> 00:40:10,940
He has people in all walks of life,
Doriot supporters in the army.

634
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,180
There are some in the police,
in the press, in industry.

635
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:15,540
It's absolutely everywhere and there
are some all over France.

636
00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:17,020
There are even in North Africa.

637
00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:22,120
All these people, if you frame them,
can provide intelligence and

638
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,320
work usefully for the SD.

639
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,800
But Roland
Nosek's financial support is not disinterested.

640
00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:34,620
Himmler wants to obtain as much political
information as possible from his SS in Paris.

641
00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:38,960
and police information for his Gestapo as
part of his relentless fight against the

642
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,920
enemies of the Reich.

643
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:45,560
He pays dearly and wants results,
but the PPF men are not at

644
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,780
and Nosek is annoyed at the amateurism
of Doriot's spies.

645
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:56,240
In the end I only received two kinds
of reports from Doriot and his PPF.

646
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,080
Insignificant police tips,
arms caches or stories

647
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,040
communists.

648
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,500
I passed it on to the Gestapo and quite often,
the feedback was that either it wasn't

649
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:08,180
not precise, or it was completely made up.

650
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:15,880
Real ineffectiveness or a manoeuvre to
clear Doriot and his men after the event?

651
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,760
In any case, the support will last
until the end of the war and death

652
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000
of the head of the PPF in 44 in Germany.

653
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,860
The happy days of the collaborationists
would not last until the famous

654
00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:30,000
year 1944.

655
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:34,440
For their Nazi partners,
things have been going seriously wrong since

656
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
the defeat at Stalingrad in early 1943.

657
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,760
By the end of the year, Hitler and his
Wehrmacht generals knew that he had to get out of the war.

658
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,120
Paris would have to be evacuated.

659
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,500
It's out of the question for them to leave
the compromised French politicians behind

660
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:49,460
them.

661
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,800
In '44, the liberation of Paris becomes
an issue on all sides.

662
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,760
On the French side, someone has to
be found for the post-Vichy period.

663
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,640
Why not, in a last chance manoeuvre,
reunite the Assembly?

664
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:08,280
and take up the Third Republic
where we left off?

665
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,600
Pierre Laval understands, perhaps belatedly,
that Hitler is going to lose the war.

666
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,500
Not only is he going to lose the war,
but that very soon the Allies and

667
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,340
resistance fighters will be in Paris.

668
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:24,600
He's trying to save his skin.

669
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,240
What Laval wants, at some point,
is to hand over power.

670
00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:30,940
He doesn't want to hand it over to de Gaulle
because it's impossible.

671
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,120
If you find someone who hasn't
been compromised, you'll give it to him.

672
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,000
and then they'll work it out.

673
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,200
But he will have done his job to the end.

674
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,660
That's what he really thinks.

675
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Ãdouard Herriot was the President
of the Chamber of Deputies.

676
00:42:46,420 --> 00:42:51,400
Why not have Herriot
be head of the welcoming government?

677
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,360
the Americans?

678
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,760
Of course, in Laval's mind,
Herriot might be a shield for

679
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,280
- all those who had made mistakes
- dare I say it?

680
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,240
camp.

681
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,540
Ãdouard Herriot is the only one who can
constitutionally - as if one

682
00:43:08,740 --> 00:43:12,240
the Assembly.

683
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,240
He's in pretty bad shape,
under house arrest in a clinic

684
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,500
clinic near Nancy.

685
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,560
It was decided that President Laval
should leave for Nancy to bring back

686
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,880
Herriot back to Paris and that
I should escort him.

687
00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:31,780
A car with SS men was to accompany us.

688
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,240
When we arrived in Nancy, I saw that Herriot
and his wife were very happy to see us.

689
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,200
to go to Paris.

690
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:42,040
On 13 August, Herriot with Madame and the
dog were installed at the prefecture

691
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:43,000
of the Seine.

692
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,020
He was extremely clever,
Herriot.

693
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,640
He let Laval speak and didn't
really accept anything.

694
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,000
He left some distance.

695
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,100
He found an argument.

696
00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:54,780
He said it would take the reunion of
what was called under the Third

697
00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:58,240
Republic the National Assembly,
i.e. both chambers,

698
00:43:58,300 --> 00:43:59,700
the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate.

699
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:03,340
Now, it is the President of the Senate,
Jules Jeanneney, who is the President

700
00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:06,400
of the National Assembly when the
two meet.

701
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,560
Jeanneney is the one to talk to.

702
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,100
Jeanneney is nowhere to be found.

703
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,300
Obviously, he's suspicious.

704
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,400
He's realised that he's more
of a hostage than a...

705
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,500
It's actually illegal.

706
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Everything that may seem like an incredible
masquerade today is an attempt

707
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,200
to renew the threads of the ordinary.

708
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,840
On 16 August, Laval and Ambassador Abetz
attempt to convince Herriot,

709
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,040
to return to his clinic.

710
00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:43,880
Which he will do before being deported to Potsdam,
Germany, where he will stay for the rest of his life.

711
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:45,200
until the end of the war.

712
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,980
A few days later,
the arrival of the Americans in Paris is

713
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:54,340
and the insurrection led by
the Resistance is in full swing.

714
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,940
It is only at the moment of the breakthrough of
the Allied forces on Normandy at Avranches

715
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:07,620
that things started to get dramatic in Paris.

716
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,500
Especially for troop transport
and fuel supplies.

717
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:23,740
We saw people in a state of fever
who would do anything to do

718
00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:24,700
something.

719
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:33,540
You could see the Sully bridge and the FFI running
across the bridge, bent in half and armed.

720
00:45:34,620 --> 00:45:37,760
In our neighbourhood, militiamen
were shooting from the rooftops.

721
00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:43,920
When we passed through the streets,
we stayed along a wall because at least,

722
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,920
you avoided the roof opposite.

723
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,220
There was still fear.

724
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:54,100
German civilians and many
services have already left.

725
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,520
The troops are left.

726
00:45:56,140 --> 00:46:00,100
On 9 August, a new general is sent
to Paris to resist at all costs.

727
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,820
This is his last mission.

728
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:04,400
His name is von Choltitz.

729
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:11,280
On 20 August, Hitler sent the order
to defend Paris without considering for

730
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,900
possible destruction of the capital.

731
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,120
But three days later,
Hitler changes his mind.

732
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:24,000
On the 23rd, he orders that Paris will only fall
to the enemy in a state of total destruction.

733
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:24,960
field of ruin.

734
00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:33,900
If all is lost, if we are the
last sacrificial victims and if

735
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:37,740
- the German Reich is to be destroyed
- which he had no doubt it would be,

736
00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:41,580
nothing else admirable
must survive in Europe.

737
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,800
We're going to destroy everything with us.

738
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,860
It's the idea of collective collapse.

739
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,800
Yes, there is a great enigma
about the destruction of Paris.

740
00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:04,200
It was planned to destroy Paris like
other cities have been destroyed before.

741
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,100
and there would be nothing left of the former
great French power.

742
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,980
We destroy France before we leave.

743
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,820
Von Choltitz doesn't feel like
doing anything, but he doesn't want to

744
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:16,360
surrender without a fight.

745
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:21,400
Around August 23,
all roads in Paris were blocked

746
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,880
and fire was coming from all sides.

747
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:26,700
The bells of Notre-Dame announced
the arrival of the Americans.

748
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,180
This is where it was learned that von Choltitz
would deal with the FFI about a

749
00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:32,140
surrender.

750
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,340
Von Choltitz undermines bridges and other major
monuments with the means at his disposal.

751
00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:42,460
but he can't do more than that.

752
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:44,620
Not enough to blow up Paris.

753
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:48,051
Night bombing is impossible,
it would kill people

754
00:47:48,051 --> 00:47:49,720
the remaining German soldiers.

755
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:54,540
The general simply cannot
technically obey Hitler's order.

756
00:47:54,740 --> 00:47:57,180
and he doesn't see the strategic
military point of it.

757
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:01,440
We don't know what this guy thinks.

758
00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:05,080
It's quite clear that von Choltitz
never had any intention of doing so.

759
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,300
to do that.

760
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,740
Not because he loves Paris,
but because he knew it was a

761
00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:14,200
war crime and that there had already been
first trials with convictions

762
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,620
war criminals to death by Allied courts.

763
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:22,080
Von Choltitz realizes above all
that he does not have the means to destroy Paris,

764
00:48:22,460 --> 00:48:28,020
he saves Paris more out of impotence than will
.

765
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,040
But then he uses it to save himself.

766
00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:39,300
We have to save his image once
he's a prisoner.

767
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,440
Paris was liberated and didn't burn
as Hitler demanded,

768
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:46,960
but Von Choltitz had nothing to do with it.

769
00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:55,100
Paris was saved neither by the FFI alone,
nor by Nordling alone, nor by Von Choltitz

770
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:57,680
nor by the 2nd armoured division alone.

771
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,840
It's all four together.

772
00:49:00,220 --> 00:49:02,980
Obviously, American troops,
that's important.

773
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,080
The balance of power is very important.

774
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:11,400
There was a bombing raid on Paris on 26 August,
the day after the surrender.

775
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,360
of the Germans.

776
00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:14,080
Nobody ever talks about it.

777
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,960
It was during the last bombing of Paris,
at the time of the Liberation,

778
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,660
when the Germans were bombing in all
directions, and we knew that they were

779
00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:25,720
would do that anywhere.

780
00:49:26,620 --> 00:49:31,880
In other cases, you'd think
if it was the Americans or the Allies,

781
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:37,140
generally speaking, they would target
and try to spare some of the

782
00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:38,100
of the population.

783
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:41,500
There, we knew it might be
a massacre.

784
00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:47,360
When we came up from the cellar,
we were in Place des Vosges and the sky

785
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,220
was completely red.

786
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:52,040
Pure Luftwaffe revenge.

787
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,040
120 aircraft departed from Belgium,
more than 700 injured, hundreds of

788
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,500
and the southern districts of Paris devastated.

789
00:50:01,580 --> 00:50:05,200
The chaos of the Liberation precipitates
the fate of the last Nazis in Paris.

790
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,080
They are taken prisoner or flee as best they can.

791
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:13,280
All our services collapsed in August 1944.

792
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,180
The retreat was to the east of France,
then to Germany.

793
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,280
I stayed in Belfort for a few days
and went home,

794
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:22,440
in Constance.

795
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:28,760
But, around March 1945,
Nosek will go back on duty.

796
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,600
His reputation, in inverted commas,
as a good German and a guy who makes

797
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,520
services is known,
obviously.

798
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:42,360
In 1945, when General de
Gaulle's niece was interned in a

799
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,840
concentration camp and her life was feared,
the French intelligence services

800
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,440
contact Nosek.

801
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:54,520
It is Nosek who will act as intermediary
and allow GeneviÃ¨ve to be freed.

802
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:55,480
de Gaulle.

803
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,780
On the strength of his successful mission,
Roland Nosek wants to surrender to the French,

804
00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:01,180
but only to secret service officers.

805
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:04,560
It was he who in turn requested
these officers.

806
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,660
He told them: "The war is over
and lost for Germany.

807
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:13,100
I'm a Francophile, I don't consider
myself a war criminal.

808
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:21,040
I did my duty for my country and
I wish to work for France".

809
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:22,570
It is therefore quite likely

810
00:51:22,570 --> 00:51:25,040
that he worked for the French
intelligence services.

811
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,700
We don't have an answer to that today.

812
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:37,680
The answer is in the DGSE archives,
so maybe we'll get it one day.

813
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,000
After the 60s, nobody knows
what became of him.




